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 07-05-2003, 12:53 Post: 58913
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You can buy a short barrel shotgun under the same rules as a machine gun. It requires a tax stamp, but the price is much cheaper than the one for a full auto. It does require the approval of a local chief law enforcement officer or a superior court judge.






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 07-07-2003, 15:49 Post: 59059
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Dcsmith, to a lot of Americans LSD is not even remotely funny.

You will certainly have more credence here with a profile that reflects who you really are, or even no profile at all.






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 07-07-2003, 16:56 Post: 59064
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Doc, the 14 inch and shorter 870's a purely for SWAT entry teams. When you go balls to butt in a "stick" with a bunch of guys, the short barrels are really handy.

They are intended for use in average sized rooms and can engage a suspect at arms length if it comes to that.

If you have one on a team sling you can let it go and it stays inside the confines of you body and does not get tangled up in doorways and such.

They are dangerous..... it is really easy to get your support hand in front of the muzzle at the WRONG moment. That is why most of them have a backward facing curved guard at the end of the forearm.

There is no tactical advantage that I can see for Joe Homeowner to have a barrel shorter than 18 inches.

Nor does it make any sense to load your home defense shotgun with slugs, unless you are anticipating dueling it out with suspects clad in body armor.

The best slugs on the market, Brenneke's, are completely capable of dispatching any animal that walks the earth. In Alaska we routinely dealt with the biggest deer on earth.

On the several occasions I used a 12 gauge slug to dispatch a injured moose, I had to maneuver the shot so that it would run the length of the animal. We simply could not keep the those slugs in the biggest moose on broadside and angling shots. Not good in a residential setting.

I once shot a two year old grizzly off someone's front porch. The slug entered at the base of the neck, completely traversed the animal and exited near the usual metabolic exhaust port.

I found the slug later, buried in the earth behind the critter. It had a wad of hair the size of a golf ball wrapped around it that had attached upon entry and had traveled completely through Mr.Troubled Teenage Bear with the slug.

Then there was the time I shot a Brenneke through a cinderblock, AFTER it had already defeated a class III A vest and 14 inches of newspaper.

No. You don't need slugs in your home defense shotgun....






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 07-10-2003, 09:18 Post: 59265
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F350, some primers are harder than others. CCI makes the hardest and Remington the softest. All others are in between.

I had an early stainless Chief's Special that simply would not reliably fire anything with a CCI/Speer primer but ran with 100 percent reliability on anything else.






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BTW, those drag marks on the primer are usually about a firing pins that is not retracting in a timely manner due to a dirty firing pin channel or a weak firing pin spring.






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Dennis has a new photo edit program that works very well. Click on your profile and then on the camera at the bottom of the page to find it.

Welcome back, Cutter!






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Ann... Hope you have an old grain silo you can use for a holster.......






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